Today, we're announcing a further expansion to the world of Puzzle Pirates. Our first Family Server! We've chosen the color red to refer to Family servers. And Crimson be our first. We hope we'll be adding many more Red Servers in the future!
Family/"red" Oceans differ from regular blue and green Oceans in several important ways. Most importantly, red Oceans are intended for players of all ages and, as such, will operate with greater user protection and a few limitations not present on the other Ocean types.
Ultimately, our goal with Crimson is to launch an Ocean that provide fun and engagement for both parents and their children. To provide as safe an environment as possible:
Crimson will be available in beta following our next update. You can learn more about our new Family Oceans here
Posted by Sophocles in Announcements | Jun 25, 2009 | 145 Comments | permalink
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Posted by Perlandria
Considering the number of times I've read a variation on being told 'My toddler is playing bilge while sitting on my lap', this makes too much sense.
Yes, yes, that is a TOS. But the account owner was at the keyboard so ... ?
Anyhow, I think the mini games DO have appeal for those under 13 and it is going to be interesting watching how this plays out. Especially in cross ocean doubloon traffic with that stipend, and controlling account access to the blue and green servers - as well as all the social stuff. I have NO IDEA what personality Crimson is going to end up with.
June 25, 2009 at 04:50 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Oh my god
OH MY GOD SECOND
June 25, 2009 at 05:29 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Tongee
Perfect. This will be the perfect way to play with my grandchildren without contaminating my own crew.
June 25, 2009 at 05:46 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Kargach
This definitely sounds intriguing! Like Perlandria, I have no idea what kind of personality the red oceans will have, but look forward to finding out.
June 25, 2009 at 05:58 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Rohir
Wow Tongee. That's not very nice. :O
Anyway, awesomeness. Now I'll have a chance to get some ultimates. Hahaha.
This ocean will kind of be the opposite of the Ice Ocean standings wise.
June 25, 2009 at 06:00 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Obaba
A place my family can get together and play. Yay.
June 25, 2009 at 06:01 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Dude
Is removing sinking activities really necessary?
June 25, 2009 at 06:08 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by 68.4.169.132
This is Retarded
June 25, 2009 at 06:12 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Dude guy awesome
This shouldn't be added. Lots of kids like poker and like sinking ships. A Lot of kids Think Sea monsters are awesome
June 25, 2009 at 06:17 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Bobber
A very interesting addition, but since many countires' laws require players to be 13 y/o or older anyways the idea seems perhaps a little redundant. For the core of 13-14 y/o's on the server and any younger ones that may inadvertantly slip through the net I think this may well work... to a degree at least.
June 25, 2009 at 06:25 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Boiwonder
I only have one fear with this. You're giving underaged player a chance to play which is great, but what is going to stop new Under 12's finding the "Family" version signing up to play, then realising there is an "explicit" version and moving to a blue/green ocean. I think this may just result in more underage players on the current oceans.
June 25, 2009 at 06:26 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Carsomyr
They wanted Poker Free oceans.. and they got them. ^_~ Heeeh.
It sounds a bit like you'll be able to choose between a new kind of sub, or dubs.. is this right?
I can't wait to see how it works. No rum? I guess a bunch of trophies will be off limits. Standings staying? How about the ult lists? And will I get to swordfight with balloon animals instead of swords?
June 25, 2009 at 06:28 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Simmins of Midnight
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that this will further decrease the number of players in the smaller oceans like Malachite, Midnight and Cobalt.
June 25, 2009 at 06:28 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Mama Pirate
This is a fantastic thing! My kids LOVE the Puzzle Pirate world but obviously the smaller ones can only look on while others play. The new ocean prospect is quite exciting! My youngsters are quite eager to try it out! We know so many people who play - and all the kids want in (and I hear some play too with parents). I am one adult who could do without the 'older' content and Pirate happily with my kiddos!
June 25, 2009 at 06:33 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Boiwonder
Second though, you may not want to give Crimson a Parley ;)
June 25, 2009 at 06:34 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Servile
@ Dude
i believe sinking really is necessary. if an 8 year old buys a sloop and sails it and it gets sunk he will be traumatized and most likely cry. he spent a week+ saving for a boat then it disappears. i think it is a very good idea to make this ocean. Wagering may be a bit too much but that is also considered gambling in a way. other games of the sort for 13- would allow it though, perhaps a limit? say 50-100 PoE max bet? or a clear warning before creating a table or joining stating that losing the battle will result the loss of money.
June 25, 2009 at 06:36 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by crunchberry
act why not just kick all the kids off dubloon oceans period make em 18 or over and supply a family friendly ocean for the rest i am personally tired of kids 18 and under all over the oceans no personal responsibility for one send em packing
June 25, 2009 at 06:42 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Fable
I love the idea of this ocean I really do. But it's going to turn into a nightmare for the younger player and rather quickly I would imagine. If there is no way to police moving dubs from crimson to green oceans or vise versa then ths younger player will find themselves up the creek without a paddle quite quickly. I can also imagine the language and manipulation that will happen on this ocean as well. Please Please Please protect the younger player by very harshly inforcing rules and some kind of protection plan on this new ocean.
You tell younger players basically when they get old they can go to the big boy ocean. That's like holding a cookie jar in front of their faces and saying not until after dinner.
I truly hope this works out for a younger player though.
June 25, 2009 at 06:44 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Nadegurl
WOW! An ocean for younger kids. No offense, but don't you think the 10-13 year olds who play are immature enough? Why attract more? They are only going to be intrigued with the 'big-kid' oceans...
June 25, 2009 at 06:46 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Rome
"A flag so good, they named an ocean after them."
Cool news guys (=
June 25, 2009 at 06:55 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Pletoo
This is very good news indeed - I know I have a few youngsters in my life that would love to play - I look forward to checking it out.
June 25, 2009 at 07:09 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Tpwdda
i would not be supprized if this had the
result of actually attracting more older players and less younger players.. A lot really good players have been cryin for a non-poker ocean
June 25, 2009 at 07:10 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by lose
if kids start playing on crimson and realize there is so much <more> to do on the green/blue oceans... wouldnt you think they would simply move there? also since its family older people are going to play t here and just destroy all the kids at everything -.-
June 25, 2009 at 07:11 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Dukeofpoe
The game, I believe, will simply not be the same without the removal of features documented above. And seriously, how many players do you expect on the Crimson Ocean? I myself know many players who broke the ToS by playing before the age of 13, and I doubt that issue to be resolved by adding the Crimson Ocean. 11- and 12- year olds who currently play the green, or blue, oceans will not be interested to play in an ocean limiting their freedom; 11- and 12- year olds who find this game will, after finding out the differences of the oceans, never, never, settle in to the Crimson Oceans.
June 25, 2009 at 07:13 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Virdian Pirate
You would think after seeing the new oceans get no more than 300 people on at busy times, they'd stop producing oceans, let alone servers that are meant for kids. Oh well, it's Three Ring's time and money lost.
June 25, 2009 at 07:14 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by tpwdda
Furthermore... if u do have more younger players u get more younger captians and a LOT more scamming
I'd imagine OM "policeing" issues will be incredible on such an ocean.
but as i said i predict somehow it will all work backwards and actually be a server for more experienced players
June 25, 2009 at 07:14 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by AnimaldanofCobalt
I like the idea of the Crimson oceans, but some kind of limit would have to be put to prevent them from just switching over to the blue green oceans like people have mentioned. But a kid server is a nice idea i wanna see what the oceans come out looking like
June 25, 2009 at 08:03 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Dub wanter
We are allowed to trade dubs between green and red oceans right?
June 25, 2009 at 08:04 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Starhawk
Awesome. Can we require that EVERYONE under 18 play there, away from the adults?
Okay, I'll be generous... make it 15.
June 25, 2009 at 08:04 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Harry Dal Bello
To those who say anone under 18 should be move to a red ocean i am offended as a 14 year old myself.
on topic though i think this is a good idea to get more attention to the game but am worryed about ocean cross over
June 25, 2009 at 08:22 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Crooktooth
So now when a seven year old kicks my booty, I can't even pretend they're over 30?
Egobash++
June 25, 2009 at 08:22 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Basho
I think this is a GREAT idea.
What does "decremented" mean? Seems like a bit of a euphemism.
People whose children like sinking and sea monsters can still share the other oceans with them. It will be nice to have an ocean for the parents who feel uncomfortable with those concepts.
June 25, 2009 at 08:24 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by FPAMC2
Yes, I agree with Basho. For parents who like to restrict what their children do and those who monitor what their children are doing, this would be a good idea to release an ocean where there are limitations that parents are more comfortable with. Especially the filters. ;) I would definitely enjoy this new ocean feature for my younger cousins, who have expressed a desire to play Puzzle Pirates. Unfortunately, they're only seven, so they can't play the other oceans just yet. Adding Crimson would solve this problem. And having no poker is a plus. :)
June 25, 2009 at 08:41 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Lotsofgoats
Ooh ooh can we have sword fighting, but with safety scissors? Think of the children!
June 25, 2009 at 08:43 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Cosmosi
GREAT IDEA !!! This should have been done long ago .
Removing Sinking , poker , Drinking and specially Wagering is an very awesome thing.
About Sea-Monsters I would suggest to make it like a NON-Sinking Flotilla , well and Timing is what is needed most , I really think Three Rings should make producing skills and items be produced much more faster there . I don't suppose there are parents who would like to see their children playing PuzzlePirates 3-4 hours a day or even more. And please try to make it as friendly as possible , DON"T allow them to create opponents . Just make it as they get together , fight together and defeat Enemies . That is how they like it I guess
June 25, 2009 at 09:04 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Pardner
I got so excited by the color Crimson, because I thought it was going to be the PVP-heavy ocean that someone suggested a while back...
... but it's the opposite...
June 25, 2009 at 09:08 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by uzi
I want the Orange Ocean. We were here before CT. I feel so dejected. Congratulations Rome, we all know you are much cuter and a better leader than I am.
June 25, 2009 at 09:18 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by uzi
I want the Orange Ocean. We were here before CT. I feel so dejected. Congratulations CT. Remember the Orange.
:o)
June 25, 2009 at 09:21 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Aussiebob
Congratulations on the forsight to create an ocean where the basics of the game can be learned by our younger audience. Being An OLD person myself my seven year old Granddaughter has asked numerous times about if she can play now i can tell her yes.
At long last the refraim "six years until I can play" will no longer be heard.
The only down side is now we will argue over who gets to use the computer to play Puzzle Pirates and she will probably be better than me at it.
June 25, 2009 at 09:47 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Frogmann
My thoughts: A few people have suggested kicking all under-18's off the current oceans...i personally think it is pretty hard for the OceanMaster's to do that...it'd take them ages.
And also....SOME under-18 players are actually more mature than their age...so yeaaaahh....I think the idea of kicking under-18's off the current oceans is the worst idea ever!! EVER! (maybe not ever....but it's a pretty stupid idea :P) and oh.....................
What's 6 + 21?
June 25, 2009 at 10:07 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Muffinhead
Good idea! I don't think I'll be able to get my kid sister into it, but I always panic when I hear swears on normal PP. Except I'm not sure about the sinking-games-being-removed thing.
June 25, 2009 at 10:27 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Festrunk
I hope the people engaging in HWFO about this ruining the dub economy realize how silly they sound.
June 25, 2009 at 10:30 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Ringer
my 11 year old grandson plays on my ocean, can he take his poe to new area34
June 25, 2009 at 10:59 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Igor
Hmm
And where will be ship sink? I mean ships being impossible to sink obsoletes shipyards in a year orso because ppl will own so many ships that they cant possibly use.
I.
June 25, 2009 at 11:09 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Aarrtie
How about a Gray (Grey) ocean for all us greybeards playing Puzzle Pirates. You can replace Rum with Prune Juice...
June 25, 2009 at 11:36 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Rawreh
I really dont think removing Sea Monsters and Sinking ships is necessary, lots of kids would love the excitement of this!
June 26, 2009 at 12:41 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by miagracez
This is a truly amazing idea! This will draw so mant New Piarets!
June 26, 2009 at 01:06 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by ilol
I like the idea. My daughter, since she was 2, liked playing bilging, shipwright etc. :P So it's a great idea ocean for children.
June 26, 2009 at 01:14 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by abiha
hey
June 26, 2009 at 01:47 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by logandrew
I gotta say it's a good idea though I agree with the post about the no sinking killing the economy. CI brought about a rush on sloops. it was just like that, sloops were massively underpriced because they never sank. Now that they do the price is far more attractive.
June 26, 2009 at 01:54 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Konraduxas
Konraduxas on Viridian ocean
Lol. I san say, thats the most of ideas are stupid:
1.Removing SMH will delete atlantean clothing
2.Ships do sink (real life), so it would be stupid to make them non-sinking even when blasted by TNT
3.Most money is earned by poker, so i suggest making poker with open hands :P
4. Removing rum will kill all the distileries
AND
5. Kicking -18 from thy other oceans will kick 1/2 people out
June 26, 2009 at 03:07 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Jessica
Fantastic Idea.
People will still need Rum for Ships, it means get rid of the drinking game.
No sinking could possibly bring turmoil, so perhaps keep sinking Flotillas, and sinking Flotillas only. (:
I don't believe that most money is earned through poker, alot of money is also lost through poker.
I completely agree with the proposal.
June 26, 2009 at 03:55 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by daengle
Excellent idea, now can we get a black flag ocean for adults only?
June 26, 2009 at 04:42 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Nintendokid
as a teenager i can see how this is a goodidea with sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many flaws it raps all the way around into success. basicly your removing everything subscribers can do that non sus cant.... if your going to make red oceans make them completly non sub... o wait that would fail because you need subs to start crews and run ships... i mean what would be the advantage of subbing on this new ocean? also I don't see how wagering is bad, where as gambling is this is fake money,it's not like we can wager dubloons on dubloon ocean or wager subscriptions on subscriber oceans ....this idea is almost as failing as the pp adventure
June 26, 2009 at 05:21 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Freesia
This will be a great new server for the puzzle pirate community. Especially for family only. But the only thing I disagree is about the poker...sea monster....and sinking activities is a bit overboard in taking it away. Reason is cause I do see alot of younger kids nowadays playing poker (Texas Hold''em)...Especially at my work in which I deal with kids ages 6-12yrs old at a group home. As for sea monsters...same thing....kids love monsters. If they like watching Yu-Gi-Oh or Pokeman in which there monster in them then they should allowed monster in the server. As for sinking activities....think about the game battleship which kids do love playing also. (B-7) YOU SUNK MY BATTLESHIP....BOOM. :)
June 26, 2009 at 05:40 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Alloha
I will certainly go have a peek at Crimson when it opens. For those who complain about some features not being implemented, i would say : don't play on Crimson if ye don't like it. Stop asking for all the oceans to be the same.
June 26, 2009 at 05:48 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Clawers
Freesia I totally agree with you about this one beacuse its the same thing in real life and it should be the same here.
June 26, 2009 at 05:53 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by fake
when is this actual "beta" exactly going to be released?
June 26, 2009 at 06:36 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by lillyliver of midnight
Ive read all theses comments and most are negative...why??
If OOO are doing something to get all the kids who are wanting to play a safer enviroment to play in then why not??? How many times has an underage player been scammed or thrown of the ocean?
I myself have a child who wants to play. So the only thing Id like to see done is for some age checks to be put inplace or this ocean is by invite to keep the rather sad and often nasty scammers off so that the kids get a chance to experiance pirates as its meant.
June 26, 2009 at 08:03 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Treasuredru
the thing is, since some of the layers are under 13 and still sign up, they are used to all that and would not transfer to that ocean because they wouldnt find it necessary they would just find it 'dumb'. And to all those who object to this Ocean, you don't have to join it, its just for those 'underaged players' that want to play puzzle pirates. I myself thinkit is unecessary because why shouyld ppl under 13 be playing anyway but..
( i am 13 atm)
June 26, 2009 at 08:16 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Treasuredru
By the way Freesia it Pokemon :)
June 26, 2009 at 08:21 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Oldensugar
It's a nice idea, especially removing poker and wagering and adding more strict filters.It's also good for little children to get the chance to Play Yohoho Puzzle Pirates. But don't ye think its going a bit far to remove sinking, flotillas and SMH's? I mean kids love that kind of thing, and at least 30% of players earn almost all their money from hose. Even the rest of the players must earn at least half of their money from those two.It's mainly good, but on the part of removing sinking and SMH and flotilla, i agree with Freesia.
June 26, 2009 at 08:27 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by anonymous
this is pointless just put an optional better chat filter on the existing oceans, so when the parents set it up they just click a box instead of making sure the kid goes on the right ocean every time they play the game!
June 26, 2009 at 08:47 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by blehblehblehblah
kinda crap if you ranged 16 - 17, work, get paid, buy Doubloons through debit card then booted out of the ocean because some people think your not mature enough considering theres about alot of adults who moan when they lose in sf and other things branding people luckers, modders... oh wait... thats why you probley want them out! cant face losing to kids!
June 26, 2009 at 09:10 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Parder
I think even an 8 year old can figure out how to change to a normal ocean and play poker, sea monster hunt and whatnot.
Ults are gonna be too easy to get on that ocean to...
June 26, 2009 at 09:13 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Buchanko
Another waste of time on doing something crappy as this istead of adding ingame content( major like Vice-captain,Crew offices and etc... ,you add another useless server... well done...
June 26, 2009 at 09:22 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by saucysally
I think it is a good idea. I have kids who want to play, but I feel that they need an ocean where people will be a little more patient with them. If you play any of the other games out there that are family friendly you find yourself more patient with less skilled players knowing they may be very young.
I hope OOO is considering the option for parents to choose text or non text talking for children. This is another good way for people to know if you are talking to a player under 13. Some of the games out there now for kids have wonderful chat filters.If you dont like the limitations then this is not the ocean for you and isn't great you have options. Yes kids sometimes find ways around the chat filters, but it is a pain to find rhyming words for everything. Plus in some games you can't read any text chat unless you are given the privilege and the menu chats are good.
I look forward to an ocean my younger kids can play and enjoy.
June 26, 2009 at 09:26 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Sabrewolf
Alright I'm getting kinda annoyed of "Let's make it so it has to be 18 and up for green/blue oceans!" I am offended because although I am 13 I am not as stupid as a youunger kid. Sure there are some really stupid 13 year olds, but do you think they'd honestly find this game? There's no reason to change it and you guys will only put YOUR age is the minimum so you're in and other people aren't.
Back on topic, I do agree with most people. When the younger pirates figure out about how they're limited on the red oceans, they'll just switch over. They'll probably figure this out when they visit the YPPedia. So no point in wasting money and time trying to make this, but it sounded like a descent idea from the start, but once you look int it it's a disaster in the making.
P.S. crap! I couldn't answer the math question! Anyone know what 4 plus 8 is?
June 26, 2009 at 09:42 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Alec1000
What'll replace the rum?
Swill-Milk
Grog-Apple Juice
Fine Rum-Chocolate Milk?
June 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by unknown
i agree taking away sinking ships and smh will make docks stockpile with ships and ruin the economy (inflation)
June 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by 71.176.72.57
cool!!!!!!!
June 26, 2009 at 11:38 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Bobbert
Honestly, in my opinion, I don't see why the age limit for this game is 13+. My little brother used to play and at the time was only 9 years old. I allowed it however because I see no point in banning people if they are under the age of 13 years old. True, there may be some rude people, but what games doesn't have that? True, there may be swearing every now and then, but who doesn't hear that now-a-days?
I know it is too late to change the age limit, but I strongly disagree with the creating of the Crimson Ocean. I could see why it would greatly help, but for the most part it would be a pain and unnecessary.
June 26, 2009 at 11:42 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Castawayjoe
I think some commenters here may be looking at this the wrong way. You complain about how the economy will be ruined, etc; I don't think this ocean is intended to have a typical economy. Very few young kids are going to have the understanding and desire to engage in shoppekeeping, and parents interested in shoppekeeping will probably prefer other oceans. I imagine that many things on Crimson will be different since it is geared towards a different audience.
June 26, 2009 at 12:57 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by 90.200.167.141
I myself are getting annoyed with this 18+ Green/blue oceans. Just stop. It's being ageist. I love playing the game. Not all teenagers are immature. They are some mature ones. Don't act like there ain't no immature adults. Cause they are many. On Topic: This Crimson ocean will be perfect for the young ones. Like a starter ocean for them then they can go into bigger ocean
June 26, 2009 at 01:23 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by tallsean
I think it should be the way it was 3 years ago, i play on the midnight ocean and everything is way to different. i had alot of friends that quit YPP becaue of the changes
June 26, 2009 at 01:25 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by 92.3.193.190
I think this is a fantastic idea. Somewhere for the whole family to hang out. There are enough blue and green oceans for everyone else. So I dont see why people are complaining at the end of the day it you dont like it you dont have to play on crimson
June 26, 2009 at 01:26 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Piratess
Overall sounds a great idea; obviously if there are a fair few differences in structure the economy may require quite a lot of tweaking to settle down. To those who wonder why poker should be taken out - I do NOT want my 6 yr old learning how to play poker! Full stop! But as so many people above have commented, quite young children are attracted by some of the games. I often find myself playing in a tournament with a little person cheering me on in the background ... I'm not sure when I would investigate it for my two, was thinking of letting them learn similar games on simpler game sites first, but once it settles down I'll certainly have a look.
June 26, 2009 at 01:26 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Jillale
I love this idea and am looking forward to seeing it in action. My children have watched their parents play for years and have wanted to play with their own characters. While I have let them play a few puzzles, I keep telling them they can't have their own account until they're old enough. I do want them protected from the chat of people who don't control themselves and don't care who their audience might be. I also want mature players I respect protected from the childish silliness my kids can dish out. I do want them to be able to play with other people who are the same age and have the same interests. I think some fun substitutes could be made for the games and social activities currently on the regular oceans, gearing them to much younger players and keeping it family friendly.
June 26, 2009 at 01:32 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Alec1000
But what will replace the rum?
Also, what if you're under 18, you have adult friends on the green and blue oceans, you're an SO or FO in a crew, making money, loving Atlantis, just generally having fun. Then, one day they declare the blue and green oceans are for adults only and that you'll be put on an ocean that is occupied by tons of little kids. This'll make OOO lose TONS of customers this way, because they must start all over again and can't enjoy the sea monsters or anything, now that's a little harsh. Man, some of you guys are just jerks thinking that's okay or justifiable, especially if most people under 18 are jut playing to have fun and are innocent.
June 26, 2009 at 01:49 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Boredperson
At the bottom after a LOT of comments:
U seen Pirates of the Carribbean? why no sea monsters? plenty of kids like them anyways
June 26, 2009 at 01:49 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by bflakes
i think this will be horrible cause no sinking i mean yah the no poker thing is great it will attract jobbers for pillys. what wont work is the fact whats the point of waging wars??? that means no point in cades alot of people like cades that means no sinking floats which are the ones that make money. and the no SMH thing is dumb alot of little kids are facianted with fighting and shooting monsters i mean they probably dream about it all the time
June 26, 2009 at 03:02 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by ypp
i think this is a great idea. it will allow younger kids into the game and let them learn the basics.
no sinking is a tad harsh though. for the ocean to work u will need to attaract experianced players to start with to make crews and flags.
other wise the ocean will look boring and a 6 yr old wont make a very good captian.
banning under 18's is rediculous.as a captain myslef i wuld find it very annoying to have spent all that money then been moved oceans. there are are a lot of immature over 18 captians out there. i am only 15 but my crew never has any great dramas or problems.
June 26, 2009 at 03:19 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Lazeboy from hunter
They wont FORCE u to leave the blue/green oceans mostly the deicision of the player or the players parents. But I'm guessing the age will range from 6ish-11 and I too know kids that are under the TOS age but still enjoy the game. It will mostly be a decision of the player :D
June 26, 2009 at 03:40 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Blehblehblehblah
Directed at bored person
there is a sea monster, the kraken, sheesh
June 26, 2009 at 03:45 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Perlandria
Is there going to be any outreach to pirates previously banned for being under 13? It is okay for them to be young now, and you already know they are interested.
Or naaaawww, don't encourage rule breakers to come join the fun?
June 26, 2009 at 05:09 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Traveller
I suspect that sea monsters are not going to be removed, just made non-sinking. Younger kids have a lot more time constraints, and it's really not fair to a captain who's in the middle of something sinking when half his crew have to go to bed for school.
June 26, 2009 at 06:20 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by unknown
this shouldn't be allowed because as a 13 year old will have a bunch of adult friends in the other oceans (unknownly) and they won't ever see them untill about 10 yrs later! >:@
June 26, 2009 at 06:47 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by piratejustin
The idea is great, but some stuff will have to be demolished:
-Tons of ships will belong to the ghost ship because sinking and sea monsters disappear from gameplay, which basically isn't fun for the young guys. They MAY be interested!
-Atlantean Clothes because SMH is gone.
Otherwise, I wouldn't imagine it crash and burn. It might be good for my 8-year-old!
June 26, 2009 at 06:55 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by woohoo
Crimson, no Sea monsters? Purely Lame ( no more bravery badge less doub buyers) no poker? also lame ( some people buy parlor badge just to play poker. so that means less buyer of doubs.)
no sinking? lame ( people tend to buy ships to go on SMH, flotilla and blockades. no ship delivery less doub buyers.
No wagering, ultimate lame. less people will play parlor games because they play it to earn money( meaning less parlor badge buyers = less doub buyers)
so think about it...
Well, i guess OOO dont listen to our comments. they just making us fools to comment, comment, comment. so if youre not reading our comments, remove the comment-comment thing.
June 26, 2009 at 10:45 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by woohoo
i just remembered........ in notice board once PP said that they will release a rocking-thing sort of such like. they said they will have guitars in the IM and sort of make-ups in apothecary. its been said in feb?/march? and it is almost july now.ooooooohhh plz OOO dont make us very excited to nothing. its just very annoying. VERY VERY annoying! i hope it will not happen again its just making people annoyed.
June 26, 2009 at 10:46 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Meat.
I just wanted to put my .02USD in on this.
Non sinking will result in overt amount of ships and result in shipwriting to be worthless and an obsolete stat (Unless done for fun, but really... no one will do that.)
You'll have to find more ways of sinking the PoE currency to regulateinflation/deflation.
I think not having sinking/SMH is probably designed (this is to the people who were asking for it) this way because a 12 year old leading a SMH, can you say phail?
I mean, 40% of the adults sink in a SMH.
I am thinking there will be alot of blockading as well because ships can't be sunk, thus no one has really anything (except the petty war chest) to lose.
amirite?
Btw, the "simple math question" is extremely challenging when I am drunk. >_> Even with a 138 IQ. :P
June 26, 2009 at 11:01 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by jen
I am very excited for the release of this ocean. Although it is intended for "Family-Use" I think it will draw in some experienced pirates looking to provide guidance and support for the young'ins. To be frank, I am glad that neither poker nor Atlantis will be present on this ocean, as I never really was a fan of them to begin with. However, I am a bit disappointed that doubloons will be transferable between the Red and Green Oceans. I feel that this system will be manipulated by more experienced pirates looking to make an easy doub and transfer their earnings to their main ocean. Other than that I am extremely pleased with the use of a Family-friendly server, and anxious to find out which ocean layout it will take on (hopefully Midnight or Malachite). I also appreciate Three Rings providing a new payment option! can't wait to see how some of these new mechanics play out!! I myself look forward to playing on the new ocean :D
June 26, 2009 at 11:25 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Slashbuckled on Sage
Reading these comments it would seem that most of you have a problem with the 'Crimson' ocean which they are releasing soon. I have also noticed that most of you have FAILED to see that this ocean is a BETA. Thus making change inevitable.
A bit off topic, the response about teenagers is pretty horrible, really. You all say teens are terrible etc. but the adults were them too, right?
Back on about Crimson. Sea Monster Hunts are not essential. Nor are any of the other things! This is supposed to be about the family getting involved in pillages etc. I think it's a good idea which WILL be improved!
Slashbuckled on Sage.
June 26, 2009 at 11:52 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Kiadude on the Viridian ocean
I like the moronic ideas of "All under 18's should be kicked into an ocean of their own, they ruin the game".
It shows some peoples inability to think of the future, and now we know the type of people that encourage this media frenzy of stereotyping teens.
The ocean sounds like a FABULOUS idea, if not for the sinking. Either way, my 4 year old brother will be on it ^_^
June 27, 2009 at 05:18 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Spelunk
Reading through the comments I see a common point is a concern over the moving of Dubs. I didn't see anywhere that this was documented as happening.
I think you will find the Crimson oceans to operate their own, totally independent economy from both Blue and Green.
Heck, I'l probably go there and play a bit? Why? I'd like to get the confidence up to try taking a ship into Atlantis but hate the thought of loosing a ship! Running a shipyard on Midnight I KNOW how much effort goes into both getting the commods AND the labour to make a ship!
June 27, 2009 at 06:53 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Treasuredru
Everyone should know that once they create that ocean, adults are going to go on that ocean because they know children will be most of the server's population and they want to become ultimate and they know they can beat the children so I dont see how this will differentiate the younger children from the adults...( not to mention the probable chance stalkers will get on the ocean...-_-)
June 27, 2009 at 06:56 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by surfie
While i think the over all concept of this is great my problem is now the population of the sub oceans will fall even more. Every day it gets harder and harder to load ships on midnight and more people leave and are closing shops because there isnt enough laborers. I really wish more energy was put into promoting the sub oceans then continuously adding new oceans and pulling people away from the subs.
June 27, 2009 at 07:26 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Bellabell on Hunter
As a 17 y/o captain and queen i resent the comments that 'all under 18's should have there own ocean'. I have played the game for the last few years and worked hard to get my stats (no ulti's yet tho -_-). I do not want to be kicked to another ocean to have to start again, i will just turn away from PP. I hardly ever swear and the content of my crew and flag chat is usually suitable for everyone...we call ourselves a family friendly flag!!!
On topic though, i like the idea of the server being family friendly, but the OOO need to do some serious thinking before setting it up. How do they stop the players getting onto the 'bigger kids' oceans?? And what happens to those under 13s already on the bigger oceans?? I'd lose half my crew!!
Please OOO think seriously about this before starting it!! Could it be like Ice Ocean in the way that you would have to download it seperatly to the blue/green oceans!?
June 27, 2009 at 07:59 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by A Midnight Player
Wow.
Most people start playing this game at really young ages, ya know. I started heaps young, and i wasn't immature or what-not. Poker was my first love, even if you lose, it's a GREAT social activity and really fun.
haha, come on, taking away sea monsters? thats like the only fun thing to do on a ship now; to go out and SMH.
Also; I think this is a really really bad idea.
What about pedophiles and online stalkers?
What if these kids give out personal information?
It's REALLY unsafe.
And yeah, don't move under 18s. Adults created the game, under 18s MADE the game. It just wouldn't be fun.
I still don't understand why adults with children play this game.. why not go out for a walk with your kid instead of teaching them bad habits?
June 27, 2009 at 09:36 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Behindcurtain
[b]Can we please not use "red" as the color for a blood-less, family server?[/b]
And talk about not having the time to keep up with the latest -- this is the first I see about this, because I got something in my mail. Nothing seen on the forums yet. And I'm two days late getting into this.
Meanwhile, I do like the idea of a non-sinking environment. I've love to go into CI/SMH's in non-sinking for practice, to learn how to do it on the real oceans. So yes, expect to see me there -- especially if dubs are transferable -- as I'll be learning.
Small ships in Atlantis FTW.
June 27, 2009 at 09:43 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Pez
I would like to point out, to some of you newer members, that there was a time before poker and SMH in YPP and it was still a fun game. I believe the point of the crimson ocean is to allow people to play some of the games, without having to deal with the other stuff that comes along with it. There are a lot of nights when I come on, find a pillage, and carp relentlessly because I enjoy the carpentry game. Not because I really want to help the boat I'm on. The point is to provide a place for kids to play some of the games, because the games are fun, without subjecting them to the issues and drama of the adult oceans. The Crimson ocean will have a completely different feel to it. The focus will be on playing games, not making poe and pirating.
June 27, 2009 at 10:56 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Bartholomew
Why another ocean, It is just taxing the Little bit left on Midnight, Cobalt, and Mala, For what? To appease some 7 Year old pretending to be 13? Takeing away the poker, meh wouldent bother me,But Sinking, And Sea Monsters? Well thats the whole game there...
June 27, 2009 at 12:10 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by crunchberry
first of let me appologize to many younger players on the oceans,i lumped all younger players in with the ones who have no respect for others, i think the younger ocean is a great idea and my thots went to how about an adult only dub ocean with an 18 year old age limit, again sorry for the assumption all under 18 should leave
June 27, 2009 at 02:28 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by XDarkShadow
If its a dubloons ocean, couldn't players just move there money back and forth, to play poker and all. So unless you "disconnect" the oceans, don't make crimson a dubloon. cuase it'll just be controled by poeple on other oceans.
June 27, 2009 at 03:03 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Natalie
This sounds like a great Ocean. But I don't think that you have thought all the possibilities for younger people on this Ocean.
1. You need to disconnect the oceans because people can own the ocean by using Dubloons to get rich from other oceans.
2. I have already met many people on other oceans that are 13 years and younger, so what will this do to actually make people say the truth about their age.
3. Is this "family ocean" really safe for younger children?
4. Sea Monster hunting is a great experience, and without it, many pirates would miss a lot of experience.
So, any changes??
-Nat
P.S. sinking ships is AWSOMELICOUSLY COOL!!
June 27, 2009 at 04:28 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Chrisqslayer
Wow
June 27, 2009 at 04:40 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by woohoo
yeah crimson must die
June 27, 2009 at 09:05 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Perlandria
All the people here, and in the forums, who say adults will play Crimson for the easy Ultimate make me laugh!
The younger sibling kicking butt and taking names on video games in anime (japanese animation) is a reoccurring cliche because it is true! Archetypes exist because the pattern is there to show up to be seen. There is just as much chance a younger person has the hardware, concentration, and skill to be Ultimate as any other age - and youth doesn't have carpal tunnel yet or as many unavoidable distractions as adulthood.
June 27, 2009 at 10:36 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Dodo
I wish Puzzle Pirates had families, if you could get a last name and have pirate kids, that would be awesome!
They should make Puzzle Pirates more 'Sims' like. I would play forever if that happened.
This new ocean sounds good, but it might attract a few weird people, being a ocean with young kids, if you know what i mean.
June 28, 2009 at 12:43 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by haha
I wonder which dingdong thought up that Drinking is adult themed while other games that promote violence like Rumbling and Swordfight (where you can actually see swords falling on your screen which could shock a child) are child themed.
June 28, 2009 at 04:21 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Andrellus
Sweet! Now I can play with my nieces & nephews.
June 28, 2009 at 07:46 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by victor gonzales
that is really cool
June 28, 2009 at 09:00 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by omri
hi hi hi ani llo mavrn
June 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by 217.14.7.220
hey
June 28, 2009 at 02:00 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Balthaier
Guys, i have 3 cousing(7-8 years )who play GTA.You say swords and rumble are going to traumatize then? I doubt of it.
The idea is actuly good, as it opens the game to a youger public. Besides, if they like the game it might actulay get them out of some more violent games.I do think that the non-sinking will have some efect on shipyard economy.Taking poker and Wagers out is okay for me ( though they rather put a limit in wagers like 100 poe).I belive they should do some Extra smh stile puzzle to compensate for the lack of smh( there is where you realy learn how to Bnav and also get a lot of money, by the way if is not sinky, you could use it as "trainig" for real SMH, thats why they should have something that stile.)
Besides puzzling helps a lot in some aspects( like motor control, logical thinking, quick finger ... ) , but its more efective when you are a child.
June 28, 2009 at 02:43 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Mike
I heard this was a SPANISH server??
ALSO, any idea when the ocean starts up??
June 28, 2009 at 04:47 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by beutifuleyes
yay my little sister can go on
June 28, 2009 at 08:32 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by adamlatios
why
June 29, 2009 at 04:43 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by ...
I'm 16 and have been playing for around 4 years. When I started playing people thought I was in my late teens. The people stereotyping under 18s should take another look at there output, as the under 18s that play add a lot to the game. About 50% of the people I know well in game are under 18.
I think that this new ocean is a good idea, as long as the younger children have people who are older to look up to and learn from etc.. When I started playing I made friends with a group of people in their 20s and 30s, who helped me in game as well as with RL things, and so if there aren't older people on the ocean then it won't have the same feel as the current oceans.
Surely its better that OOO are being cautious about what they remove (SMH etc), as they can always add things in if they feel it is appropriate, but they can't really remove them once they are there.
June 29, 2009 at 08:16 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by zilenserz
Mates, I know many 12-14 year old pirates that play, and very few are immature. There are quite a few small yet well-run crews captained by teenagers.
Don't stereotype people/oceans so much, when you don't know how it's going to turn out yet.
June 29, 2009 at 08:27 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Whatupg
Well i think they should keep the "adult" puzzles in there, sea monster hunting and poker are one of the biggest ways to get PoE.
And their parents would probably be monitoring them too.
June 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by 81.151.152.54
this new ocean is brilliant it means younger players can talk 2 people their age without adults listening in!!!!
June 29, 2009 at 10:49 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by madmonkeyy
i agree younger players will have more freedom 2 talk without adults
June 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Redqw
Alright, yes we have heard all the economy and ageist, or anti-ageist comments. I think the ocean could theoretically run well. But there would still have to be a good majority of older players. I didnt read all the comments, but i never heard this mentioned. 8 year olds and the like, well...they get kicked off the computer a lot, older people, parents and such have more important things to do apperently. And in an ocean run by 8 year olds who are not able to be on for extended periods of time, one may find it difficult to successfully job for a crew. So unless the routes are ridiculously small with a really high spawn rate, a younger player may find it quite difficult to run a pillage or other time consuming event. Making it very hard for the little kids to make money and therefore enjoy the game.
June 29, 2009 at 11:57 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Harrjm
Now there will be a place that children under 13 can get more experience on the puzzle and social level before coming over to midnight. A big plus.
Now you will have children under 13 getting online the green/blue oceans once they think they have the experience to play coming from a "red" ocean. A big minus
I see alot more parental/OM controls that will need to be implaced for this release.
June 29, 2009 at 11:58 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Frag
I agree with Redqw. Oh Balthaier I have played many games and alot of them have been bloody and gorey and lots of other thinks... Half life 1 - 2 L4D Zombie panic etc etc. When I was playing those games and this one it seems that the ones with more action gore, and other things like that are very addicting like drugs (no I have not had/used drugs in my life) I say it just addicting like drugs. Just not as bad of addiction. Some games may take your mind off of the addicting ones, some may not. All depends on the game(s) your are playing.
June 29, 2009 at 02:47 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Frag
Oh yea just wondering... is everyone auto knocked down to red ocean or what is going on >_>
June 29, 2009 at 02:53 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Bobsaget
"Certain adult-themed aspects of the game will be decremented, including...
* Sea Monsters"
What?
June 29, 2009 at 07:57 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Secret :)
I am 15 and have been playing for a couple of years. It took a while to adjust to the puzzles but I had older pirates helping me out. They have also helped me through life issues. There will definately be a lack of adults on the "Red Oceans" so how can the kiddies really benefit? In a sense this game has made me quite mature and have learned to not be judgemental before you get to know somebody. That is a great life value to have, since it is such a problem in our modern society. Where will the adults to lead these children in so many different aspects..?
Won't these oceans attract more pedophiles, since they now know exactly where to look?
Just something to think about...
June 30, 2009 at 05:32 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Blehblehblehblah
personaly Crimson = Waste of time
and its funny...people saying under 18s go to this ocean, make the oceans 18+ ... jesus... its a pirate game ? and your saying make it 18+...seriously... i think PP should be 18 and under then, if its fine for them to say its 18+, and i can safely say i bet theres about more immature adults than kids, its a joke how yous can say make a pirate game only 18+ .... whats next ? no gingers allowed ?
June 30, 2009 at 09:06 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by proudjew
i have an idea!
lets not remove SMHs, but so the economy wont fail, instead of the ships sinking, they like need to recover for a month or something like that. or even more. and maybe add a low chance of the ship not being able to be repaired? like a 5%.
June 30, 2009 at 11:04 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Tikikala
can you still have NONSINKING flotilla?
NONSINKING blockade?
June 30, 2009 at 11:12 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Drej
I might try out this new ocean... it's definitely going to take the support of playing parents and other patient people to get the ocean started. However, it will be nice to play without the necessary unwritten disclaimer about the inevitability of travel and ending up with other pirates.
June 30, 2009 at 09:13 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by bobhead
kids like to play poker for fun so i don't think that should be removed or sinking ships either
June 30, 2009 at 09:43 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by ivinot
i like the idea but i hope its pretty normal and may eweryone joine there? well thats not somthing that gonna afect me and i hope u still got flotss and blocs there. well thats al bye bye.
June 30, 2009 at 11:24 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by G
Why on Earth does Crimson NOT have Sinking and Sea Monsters? Little kids would not like it? Then remove zombies and skellies, too. Remove alchemy, because it would DEFINITELY suggest something nasty. Bleh..
July 01, 2009 at 06:48 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Heather
Seriously, I've been playing since I was like...9 (im 13 now) and I didnt lie about my age at all back then. Nobody came up to me and was like "Look theres the under-aged kind! Ha ha ha!" because many many players started under-age. Crimson I think would actually be pretty pointless. I agree with many people saying that when the kids find out the better things on blue/green oceans, they can simply just move.
July 01, 2009 at 06:57 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Zeph
I think this is great. My husband and I have always run a family-friendly crew on Viridian, but now we can play with other like-minded individuals. I hope this is a raging success.
July 01, 2009 at 09:56 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Aguantejacko
I HATE THIS GAME!!!!
HAHA I THINK U ARE AN IDIOT IF U PLAY THIS,,
IF THE ADMINS TAKE A LOOK OF THIS BAN ME NOOBS xD I AM AGUANTEJACKO OF THE VIRIDRIAN OCEAN
July 01, 2009 at 11:21 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Hoshbrowns
I believe unlike some other people that I've seen, that taking out the sinking activities is actually a good idea, considering that we're going to have younger members that aren't exactly as responsible as most older people, also I was just assuming about the younger members what is the age limit going to be now?
July 01, 2009 at 01:51 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Mewever of Viridian
It's a nice idea, but the chat filters should be turned down a tad to allow for typos. Also, it might be a good idea to hold off making a website for it until some experienced players get in and basically set up the oceans economy. What will you have otherwise? Bunch of kids stuck on naval missions because they can't get good pillies with a crew? Sounds quite sad indeed.
July 01, 2009 at 08:41 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Amin
This ocean seems like a good idea, but is too limited. I understand taking out poker, drinking, ect... But taking Non- sinking flotilas and blockades really destroys the idea. Whats the point of gathering a large fleet if you cant really do anything with it?
July 02, 2009 at 12:01 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Zack
Drinking needs to go but is sinking and sea monsters really that bad? They're just pixals.. it isn't scary or anything..and the chat filter isreally bad. You can't even type the letter "c" for c ball. Pleasure edit that ALOT. I hate typing out "got to go" when I can type gtg. Really needs tweaking.
July 06, 2009 at 12:39 PM PDT | permalink
Posted by Fal
Better yet, some of the name is a prohibited words. Like my main name, it appears red when I typed it out in chat. Not to say that some other pirate name also a prohibited words. Yes, you probably still can name your pirate with those words upon creation. But will it get you banned later in game? How are you gonna address them if their names tend to appear in red when you type it out (furthermore, most of the short-forms are in red too.)
In my opinion, chat filtered really need to be re-edited.
July 15, 2009 at 06:11 AM PDT | permalink
Posted by Addihockey of Sage
I think this new family ocean is a great idea, the chat is very strict though... strict... but safe :D -Addi
July 27, 2009 at 08:20 PM PDT | permalink